ressa of the carpenter's union. back in april we commenced a veteran's hiring steering committee, if you will, to look at issues of veterans geting into the construction field. we subsequently had two working group meetings with alameda workforce investment board, representatives, the edd there, as well as the carpenters' union and city build, as well as mission hiring hall. and what we came up with was essentially we found out that you needed to connect the dots with veterans hiring and a lot of organizations are out there working to support veterans, but nobody is really talking to each other and they are trying to individually reach out to employers and not really in a cohesive fashion. with unions and companies and cbos we needed to develop a more cohesive hiring process and that is what we worked on. we had a success story working closely with the carpenter's union, where we have two returning veterans, i think from afghanistan, to essentially pre-screened through a community-based organization -- out of a grou